False Arguments of Illegal Immigration

8/16/2008 1:46:39 AM

Look out Americans, El Nuevo Alamo is coming!

Illegal immigration advocate has written a book fore telling of a coming civil war in the US over illegal immigration.

Now this is the same group of people whose relatives we fought at the Alamo. Remember that war? His next book is El Nuevo Alamo. You think he remember that war? Whose side you think he’s on?

They are now tipping their hand sorta speak with their books on fighting Americans in a civil war. No doubt Americans will be killed by them. You think?

This is the same group that Americans are now feeding, educating and housing. Yep, they are readying to bite the hand that feeds them.

These are the same people that I call the TROJAN HORSE in America.

I like to say Calderón and Chavez Army walks my streets unabated. And one day we will be sorry for this.

Notice in this story how he is praised by elite Spanish groups.

I call them The Spanish Propaganda Advertising Machine….SPAM. (They are working over time squeezing in Spanish every chance they get in commercials, in small movie parts. There’s a Rosetta Stone infomercial on at night telling you to learn a new language, Spanish. They’re trying to persuade Americans to accept their DUAL LANGUAGE in AMERICA advocacy movement. You see I thought “When in Rome you do like the Romans.” But here they’ve come into our land and want us (this includes our elderly) to learn their language.) This is arrogance at its highest!

In this story it sounds to me like the Spanish elites, and the Spanish organizations condone his message of a coming civil war on Americans. Read the full story here:

http://www.publishersnewswire.com/booknews/2007-05-0511-PNW002.shtml

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Self-Deportation Has Few Takers 

By Spencer S. Hsu and Kari Lydersen Washington Post Staff Writers  Sunday, August 10, 2008; Page A02  

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False Dilemma Fallacy

Also Known as: Black & White Thinking.

Description: A False Dilemma is a fallacy in which a person uses the following pattern of “reasoning”:

 
1. Either claim X is true or claim Y is true (when X and Y could both be false).
2. Claim Y is false.
3. Therefore claim X is true.

This line of “reasoning” is fallacious because if both claims could be false, then it cannot be inferred that one is true because the other is false. That this is the case is made clear by the following example:

 
1. Either 1+1=4 or 1+1=12.
2. It is not the case that 1+1=4.
3. Therefore 1+1=12.

In cases in which the two options are, in fact, the only two options, this line of reasoning is not fallacious. For example:

 
1. Bill is dead or he is alive.
2. Bill is not dead.
3. Therefore Bill is alive.

Examples of False Dilemma

 
1. Senator Jill: “We’ll have to cut education funding this year.”
   Senator Bill: “Why?”
   Senator Jill: “Well, either we cut the social programs or we live with a huge deficit and we can’t live with the deficit.” 
2. Bill: “Jill and I both support having prayer in public schools.”
   Jill: “Hey, I never said that!”
   Bill: “You’re not an atheist are you Jill?” 
3. “Look, you are going to have to make up your mind. Either you decide that you can afford this stereo, or you decide you are going to do without music for a while.”

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There are many links that define what a fallacy is and how to spot one. But, I use this link because I couldn’t have said it better then he has. Plus, Nizkor tells you in detail why an argument is fallacious. Something that is important to know when spotting fallacious false arguments of The SPAM Group.

 

Link: http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/false-dilemma.html

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Today’s False Argument of Illegal Immigration is….False Dilemma!

 

False dilemma, also called false dichotomy, the either-or fallacy, involves a situation in which only two alternatives are considered, when in fact there are other options.

 

False dilemma fallacy- America’s immigration system is broken and needs to be reformed say’s The SPAM Group, and we gonna reform it for you. (We’ll write the laws, to benefit us and our illegal base too.) Therefore ICE can not enforce the laws against illegal alien invaders because the system is broken and everyone in America is an immigrant therefore all illegal alien invaders are immigrants too, and we’ve changed their names from illegal alien invaders/foreign nationals to “The Undocumented to prove this point to be true.”

 

The United State rule of law system doesn’t work like that.

 

First, the immigration system isn’t broken, just ignored by our elected-sell-out-officials. (We’re in the process of replacing them now, stay tuned to the coming house and senate cleaning.) We’ll be replacing them with men who have the backbone to enforce the laws of this nation.

 

Second, everyone in America isn’t an immigrant. Most of our forefathers were immigrants. But those of us who were born here after the migration into America are natives to this land. And yes, that includes more then others the first Indian natives.

 

Third, just because you change the name of the illegal alien invader to “the undocumented” doesn’t mean that their CRIME of ILLEGAL ENTRY WITHOUT THE PROPER DOCUMENTS is negated. That just means that’s not their true identity. (That’s a false identity.)

 

Their Major premise:   The immigration system is broken and need to be reform; therefore ICE can not currently enforce US immigration laws against illegal alien invaders.

 

Their Minor premise:  And since all Americans are immigrants.

 

Their Conclusion:  Illegal alien are immigrants too, and they aren’t criminals, because they committed the crime of illegal entry. And to prove it we’ll change their names to “the undocumented” instead of illegal aliens. They make sure never to use the word ILLEGAL when referring to illegal alien invaders.

 

CLASSIC FALLACY! Their major premise is based on their faulty logic (assumptions)!

 

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  www.OperationGoBack.com

Don’t forget to join the silent Operation Go Back fight. As you see illegal aliens through out the day in your communities, you can wear a T-Shirts that sends them your silent sentiment. Go BACK! You silently give them the GO BACK sign, which is a pointed thumb closed fist pointing to your back, means silently, GO BACK to your country! Why? Because this is the will of The American People. That all illegal aliens GO BACK to their countries and do it again and do it right!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Here The SPAM Group uses the Appeal to Pity argument also known as: Ad Misericordiam.

They’ve place their children in the middle of the illegal immigration fight, then when illegal aliens are caught by ICE while performing its duty to the American people, which is to get rid of the illegal aliens, they then make an Appeal to Pity for the families that are broken up by these legal raids.  

 

 

Question: Who put these innocent children in the middle of this situation?

 

 

Answer: Their parents and “The Spanish People Advocacy Movement Group.” Didn’t these grown people know that these children would be hurt when the parents are caught for illegal entry into this country? When the parents of these children are caught in illegal immigration raids, they use the plight of these children to get what they want; SYMPATHY for their cause! By holding their children up as victims they get SYMPATHY for their cause!

 

Why would they do that? Because they know children can garner sympathy from adults. What a shame! These people use their own children to further their cause to grab American rights. Then blame everybody but themselves for their actions. By any means necessary. Americans did not put these children into these situations their parents did, now the children suffer the consequences of their parents’ actions.

 

They reap what they sowed!

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Operation Go Back is here!

Get Ready! This is the will of the American People!     It’s Time for All Illegal Aliens to Leave Our Country and GO BACK! Send them our message, Go Back! Let your organization all speak the same message when you rally to take back our country! With out saying a word THEY WILL KNOW where you stand!  Get yours today!  Operation Go Back is here! In 1954 Pres. Dwight D. Eisenhower appointed one man, General Joseph Swing to remove illegal aliens from the United States. (We sure need him today!) But, back then we had a United States president that had a since of his duty to the American people. We don’t have that today with our current president. Pres. Bush has let us down. Over his presidency he has shown contempt for the will of the American people on countless issues, with the immigration issue included. He has to date taken up the interest of big business and their insatiable appetite for illegal alien workers. President Eisenhower took a page from President H. Hoover’s play book when he too, possessed THE WILL to deport millions of illegal aliens to make jobs available for the American people. And since we don’t have political leaders that will look out for our interest, we will have to look out for our selves. Operation Go Back is here!

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How can we conquer the illegal alien battle. By doing what Dr. Martin Luther King did to conquer racial injustice back in the 60’s. It worked for him it can work for us. I we work it! We can hold daily consistent peaceful boycotts against every single business that is upholding the illegal entry of illegal aliens. Remember:1. we are operating from of position of up holding the law.2. they are operating from the position of breaking the law, so their end can justify the means. 3. we are the majority here we are hundreds of millions . 4. they are a few millions, that’s why The SPAM Group (The Spanish People Advocacy Movement Group) is trying to get them legalized, so they can booster their numbers. Using our elected-sell-out-officials. We can do this in a non violent way with a very effective tool. Boycotting their businesses. Dr. Martin Luther King showed us exactly how to do it, and we can do it too. This is what all Legal Americans can do: when you phone a business and it speaks spanish you should boycott that business and tell them you are boycotting them and tell them why, then tell all your friends to form a group and have them do the same thing. Just like Dr. King did. BOYCOTT THAT BUSINESS! Dry up their money flow! when you go to the store a you see a product that has Spanish on it along side English boycott that product and then form a group of like minded friends and you all do the same thing. BOYCOTT THAT PRODUCT! Dry up their money flow! when you go in to a place of business and you see illegal aliens (you’ll know them because they never bothered to learn English) don’t spend your money there and let the business owner know that as long as they have illegal aliens employed you will not spend your money there. And remember the reason he’s open for business is to get you to spend your money there. BOYCOTT THAT BUSINESS! Dry up their money! then call ICE in your local area or phone the main branch and report that business to ICE as employing illegal aliens. BOYCOTT THAT BUSINESS! and BOYCOTT THAT PRODUCT! Dry up their money flow! Go to www.OperationGoBack.com or Operation Go Back here!

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Today’s False Arguments Friday, August 01, 2008

Today’s False Arguments is more of a compliment than an argument! 

Today I want to take the time to compliment Prof. Kris Kobach of the Univ. of Missouri was on the Lou Dobbs show on 28 July 08. He said on the air what I’ve said in the lyrics of my song “Take Back Our Country” and I quote him here;  

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Today’s Questions about The SPAM Group. (The Spanish People Advocacy Movement Group)

Since they’re always complaining about what the American government isn’t doing for them, I just have one question (maybe more than one, the other 74 or so will be coming later, or post your Illegal Iimmigration question here) for today. Who’s your daddy? Mexico or some other country you came from? Or, are you an American? If you are an American then you may have a legitimate gripe.

“Take Back Our Country!”

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Today’s False Arguments (yes it’s plural, on 30 Aug 08 on the Lou Dobbs show Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D) Illinois stated quite a few False Arguments, but, good old Lou kept him in check.) Rep. Gutierrez is a member of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, they demanded an end to workplace enforcement raid until the President and Congress move forward on their so called immigration reform or amnesty.

 

The transcript of his statements can be found at:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0807/30/ldt.01.html

 

Claim: Rep. Gutierrez commits a non sequitur fallacy, because he believes that because they don’t have comprehensive immigration reform then we should not presently enforce the current immigration laws that are already on the books just waiting to be used. One does not follow the other logically.

 

Later in the interview he commits Argumentum ad Misericordiam and Appeals to Pity for the man with no hand and the women with tracking ankle bracelets. Rep. Gutierrez also commits Argumentum ad consequentiam, when he Appeals to the circumstance of them (the illegal aliens) being poor with children that are being teased when they go to school. These are all fallacious arguments. And he ignores the facts that all of these people are breaking many of our laws. From illegal entry to identity theft, and what ever laws they broke that warrants them wearing these ankle tracking devices. All this is ignored by the good representative from Illinois.

 

Rep. Gutierrez said, 1. Because:” We’re not saying you shouldn’t follow the law. What we’re saying is we need comprehensive immigration reforms.”

1. But: That’s exactly why Rep Gutierrez & the Hispanic Caucus was protesting this work place raid. They don’t want our immigration laws applied to their base, The Illegal Aliens. Other wise they won’t be able to keep spouting that “the US immigration system is BROKEN and needs to be REFORM but skewed for their base and against the American people.

 

2. Because: What we’re saying is we need comprehensive immigration reform.

1. But: Every time I hear that statement I think of a hostile take over. In the business world a takeover is considered hostile when the business rejects your offer. But you keep trying to take over the business anyway. Now everyone knows that the American people (rejected their amnesty) has said NO TO THEIR TYPE OF AMNESTY. But they keep trying to get Amnesty for their illegal alien base. In the business world this would be considered a HOSTILE TAKEOVER.

 

3. Because: You should take all of the ingredients if we’re going to be successful in enforcing our work force law.

1. But: Here he’s saying we still want comprehensive immigration reform or way or else. This raid in fact was very successful, contrary to what he said. The raid arrested 393 people for aggravated identity theft. But this is the law as it is on our books. Again The SPAM Group doesn’t want the law applied to their illegal alien base. That will reduce their numbers. And that’s one of their goals, to increase their Hispanic number in the US so they can say that they are the majority race. Remember, La Raza means “The Race.”

   

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